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Who Runs The Show At Newsvine?
News Type: Opinion — Seeded on Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:43 PM EST
Article Source: jackhumphrey.comadvertisement
A bit of a rant from someone who had their Newsvine account closed down. Was the closure justified or are there some Newsvine users who think too much of themselves and are given too much power by the owners of the site?
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{"commentId":1200028,"authorDomain":"tang"}
The user in question was posting one press release after another, linking back to his site. Our TOS clearly state that this is not okay. In addition, several vigilant Newsvine users kindly informed that user that he was violating the CoH by posting promotional material, yet he still did not heed our instruction/warning. Some people just don't get that Newsvine is not a personal SEO/link farm.
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- 23 votes
#1 - Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:08 PM EST{"commentId":1200036,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}
Justice is best served with a side of fennel sometimes isn't it? ;)
{"commentId":1200036,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}
- 14 votes
{"commentId":1200074,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
People like this former user who do this kind of crap probably never even check the comments they receive. In all my time of leaving comments for users like this advising them that they are in violation of the TOS and the COH, I've only received responses from one or two of them.
As far as what DarthBob here is asking in his summary, I'd like to say this: There are users here who care about this site so much that they take valuable time to attempt to point offenders in the right direction, in order to protect the integrity of the Vine. Their time is not wasted, and the fact that Newsvine, while sometimes plagued by spammers and SEO jerks, is still relatively free of it.
{"commentId":1200074,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 15 votes
{"commentId":1200084,"authorDomain":"stacym"}
I love that this guy created an account just to post this.
{"commentId":1200084,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"stacym"}
- 13 votes
{"commentId":1200101,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
I know!
Oh, I should have added:
I TOTALLY RUN THE SHOW AT NEWSVINE, PAL.
{"commentId":1200101,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 11 votes
{"commentId":1200107,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}
I TOTALLY RUN THE SHOW AT NEWSVINE, PAL.
I knew it!
{"commentId":1200107,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}
- 10 votes
{"commentId":1200163,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
Hey! I'm in the middle of thinking up an appropriately inappropriate comment on your name change article, BRAD.
And, you know? It's about time the truth came out.
{"commentId":1200163,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 12 votes
{"commentId":1200186,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}
I'm sure you'll think of something adequately inappropriate. :P
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- 7 votes
{"commentId":1200194,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
I love that this guy created an account just to post this.
I kinda like all of his comments that he has made also :-)
{"commentId":1200194,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":1200383,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Another T-Shirt Idea for Sale at VineStock Seattle 2008 !
I TOTALLY RUN THE SHOW AT NEWSVINE, PAL.
I am going to pre-order that one !
{"commentId":1200383,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":1203146,"authorDomain":"thedagda"}
good enough f'r him, but Calvin, what is a SEO? Do you mean seó, the Irish word for "Cabaret" ("show")? Or perhaps seo which means "here"?
{"commentId":1203146,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"thedagda"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1203157,"authorDomain":"thedagda"}
:)
{"commentId":1203157,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"thedagda"}
{"commentId":1215560,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}
Another T-Shirt Idea for Sale at VineStock Seattle 2008 ! I TOTALLY RUN THE SHOW AT NEWSVINE, PAL.
I am going to pre-order that one !
Just so long as one of the shirts reads like this:
From: "I'm a class whore"
Back: Find out how and why at newsvine.com
In small letters "dedicated to Eric Albert, an opponent of class whores who contributes regularly at a site filled with them."
{"commentId":1215560,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1216223,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
dedicated toEricErik Albert
OK now on order, Did you want your Birthdate on it also Scott ?
{"commentId":1216223,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1234101,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}
Birthdate? No. web address – yes.
{"commentId":1234101,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1200256,"authorDomain":"farmer"}
I don't run the show but I am running the movie.
Had to come back with a revision. I couldn't help myself. After all we have to show who runs the show, don't we?
{"commentId":1200256,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"farmer"}
- 8 votes
#2 - Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:18 PM EST{"commentId":1200274,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
SELF-LINKER!!!!
;)
{"commentId":1200274,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 10 votes
{"commentId":1200379,"authorDomain":"farmer"}
Y'all been talking about the bad guys. Thought if they got all that PR I would join em.
{"commentId":1200379,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"farmer"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":1200289,"authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}
Just plain sad & pathetic.
{"commentId":1200289,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}
- 10 votes
#3 - Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:27 PM EST{"commentId":1200644,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
Isn't it?
Mwahahahahahaha.
We win again.
{"commentId":1200644,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":1200948,"authorDomain":"darthbob"}
"I love that this guy created an account just to post this."
All the fact that I had to create an account to post this says is that I've never used Newsvine before. I actually learned about this site from the blog of the person you kicked off for "spamming" - kind of ironic, isn't it?
I wasn't privy to the posts in question, but I know the person who has been accused here and I HIGHLY doubt he would have been spamming the site.
"Just plain sad & pathetic."
Really? In what way? I posted a link to a story that I thought was interesting, and since it was about Newsvine I figured what better place to post it and get some discussion going.
Most of the comments were reasonable, even if they were slanted in favor of Newsvine (but that's to be expected, given where we are) but I fail to see what's sad and pathetic about my posting this here.
Perhaps you suspect that I'm the guy who was kicked off? Well, I'm not - I just happen to follow his blog.
I have to say, if that's the kind of response a legitimate story gets, I'd be inclined to think that he didn't deserve to be kicked off and was in fact a victim of over-zealous members.
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- 2 votes
#4 - Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:49 AM EST{"commentId":1200972,"authorDomain":"gwenny"}
All the fact that I had to create an account to post this says is that I've never used Newsvine before.
No, it says you didn't have an account you were willing to use to hype this story. There could be a number of reasons, including you are the person whose blog is linked to and your account was deleted. . . or someone who has another account they don't want associated with this . . or even that you are new. But the fact that this is a new account is not evidence you have never used Newsvine before.
{"commentId":1200972,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"gwenny"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":1200974,"authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}
Sad & pathetic because people don't get banned for no reason. I find it sad & pathetic because he broke the rules, but plays the victim. People who ignore the Code of Honor and Terms of Service get banned. People who seed from their own blog get banned. Seems pretty simple to me. He might have posted some good stuff, but you just can't seed from your own blog. It's really clear.
{"commentId":1200974,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}
- 10 votes
{"commentId":1201575,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
I have to say, if that's the kind of response a legitimate story gets, I'd be inclined to think that he didn't deserve to be kicked off and was in fact a victim of over-zealous members.
You don't seem to have the best people skills. You might try a nicer tack with people like asking questions or "gee why did this guy get kicked off" ? Trying so post info from your own web site is very clearly spelled out in the COH, any member will tell you that.
Usually kindness wins out far faster then barking. You might want to give it a try......
{"commentId":1201575,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":1207743,"authorDomain":"Danny-G"}
Lesson in life I hope all learn at some point. There is always 3 sides to every story. He says, she says, and the truth. The truth is not always easy to see but somewhere in between both the other stories. It is much wiser to seek the truth first before we can say anything.
{"commentId":1207743,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"Danny-G"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1207986,"authorDomain":"tj"}
the fact that I had to create an account to post this says is that I've never used Newsvine before.
I believe you Darth, but the fact that you chose to join us from the 'dark side' Bob makes this old Viner very wary.
"But beware. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny" ~ yoda
{"commentId":1207986,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"tj"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":1200977,"authorDomain":"gwenny"}
OMG, I may have joined the ranks of you Vine gardeners. I followed a link to a column that was all ads and reported a lot of them. And now . .it's gone. Wow! I have the power. (Okay, I know that others of you probably found it too and it was actually YOU who did it. . but for a brief moment I thought maybe I had some power. LOL)
{"commentId":1200977,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"gwenny"}
- 10 votes
#5 - Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:03 AM EST{"commentId":1200995,"authorDomain":"Boothby"}
Take the tears to the east coast, I hear they need the rain. It you were pruned from the vine you were doing something wrong, it takes a lot to push too far with the patience I've seen from the staff.
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- 7 votes
#6 - Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:17 AM EST{"commentId":1201583,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Yeah we put up with Erik ! :-)
(just kidding Eric, kinda,,,,,sorta,,,,,)
{"commentId":1201583,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1201005,"authorDomain":"darthbob"}
"No, it says you didn't have an account you were willing to use to hype this story. There could be a number of reasons, including you are the person whose blog is linked to and your account was deleted. . . or someone who has another account they don't want associated with this . . or even that you are new. But the fact that this is a new account is not evidence you have never used Newsvine before."
Do you really think that little of new users on Newsvine? Did you magically have a bunch of stories and comments on your account the day you signed up? Why is being new the "or even" option? I guess you're guilty until proven innocent here?
And why is this "hyping" the story - is there a code that I missed that dictates what is an "acceptable" story and what is hype?
Frankly, I don't care if you believe I'm new here or not. I am. I also don't care if you think I'm the guy who wrote the story. I'm not.
It's comments like these that turn me away from using sites like this. If my links are going to be suspect right from the start, why would I put my time and effort into posting them in the first place?
{"commentId":1201005,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"darthbob"}
- 1 vote
#7 - Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:22 AM EST{"commentId":1201009,"authorDomain":"pobox522rlyeh"}
It's comments like these that turn me away from using sites like this. If my links are going to be suspect right from the start, why would I put my time and effort into posting them in the first place?
The fact that they haven't banned your account yet, indicates that the people who really run the place are very patient.
{"commentId":1201009,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"pobox522rlyeh"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":1201013,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}
If my links are going to be suspect right from the start, why would I put my time and effort into posting them in the first place?
All links are suspect, as they should be. Skepticism of what we read on the Internet is a good thing. In this case, though, we have a fair bit of experience dealing with link spammers, and the character of the post that you seeded raises a number of red flags that make us extra skeptical.
{"commentId":1201013,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"spiffie"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":1201024,"authorDomain":"Boothby"}
It's comments like these that turn me away from using sites like this.
Apparently not.
{"commentId":1201024,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"Boothby"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":1201028,"authorDomain":"darthbob"}
"The fact that they haven't banned your account yet, indicates that the people who really run the place are very patient."
Actually, it indicates that they aren't as quick to jump to conclusions as you and some of the other posters in this thread. Or maybe they are, and they're just sleeping at the moment ;-)
I've obviously come looking for balanced discussion in the wrong place, based on comments like that one.
To the people who really run the place: feel free to ban my account. I won't be using it again. (And if I had any others, like some people seem to believe, I would ask that you ban those too. Sadly, this is the only one.)
{"commentId":1201028,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"darthbob"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1201036,"authorDomain":"Boothby"}
*waves* write when you find work!
{"commentId":1201036,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"Boothby"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1203485,"authorDomain":"tang"}
I don't believe that DarthBob and Jack Humphrey are the same person. And, I don't see anything wrong with DarthBob posting this seed and trying to figure out why the author of a blog he reads was removed from Newsvine (so long as he's not affiliated with Jack's site in any way, other than being a reader). To answer your question, Jack's account was removed because he did not heed warnings about posting self-promotional content.
DarthBob, we have rules in place so that Newsvine does not become overrun by people linking to their own blogs. Many blogs have valuable information, interesting articles, etc. But it's a slippery slope, and if we let one person self-seed or promote their site(s), then we have to let everyone do it. The end result would leave us with something other than a "news" site. I hope this makes sense to you.
By the way, welcome to Newsvine. I hope you enjoy your stay here. People are riled up over this topic because they're passionate about maintaining the qualities about Newsvine that make this a great place to participate in open discussions. What may seem like a rough reception is actually the same sentiment from our users that makes Newsvine different from other places on the web. People really do care about keeping the Vine tidy.
Calvin
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- 14 votes
{"commentId":1203492,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
Thanks for popping in, Calvin.
{"commentId":1203492,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":1203588,"authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
I an many others have broke the rules, but when told not to do it any more I had no problems. When you use any Internet communities there are rules and if you break them once they kick you off. Here on the vine you are told where you went wrong then told how to amend the problem, well before your chuck off for not cleaning up your act.
People sometimes break the rule by seeding from their blog or website, do it once and members over look it and tell you what you have done wrong. Keep on doing it and then you end up attracting concern from the administrators.
It fair and square on the vine, but there are rules concerning decency and hundreds of active users here learn to respect them.
It would seem your friend Jack Humphrey had not shown respect to the community, I am sure he would of been told to copy and paste his articles then to publish them directly on the vine as an article. Very simple thing to do, however he disrespected the rules and seeded his blog.
Nice to see you stick up for him, but I do not think its a worthy task.
The vine is policed by all vine users and the judgement and punishment is given fairly by the administration. After fair warning some times many warnings. Jack Humphrey's should learn to respect rules that are very easy to keep.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":1203622,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Nice to see you stick up for him, but I do not think its a worthy task.
I agree 100%. Follow any of the links that Humphrey has written and he seems to have very little respect for others in the manner that he writes. I would not waste any effort on this person at all. The only thing he is interested in is gathering hits on his blogs and in this case using Newsvine to help out by seeding false claims.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1206402,"authorDomain":"pobox522rlyeh"}
"The fact that they haven't banned your account yet, indicates that the people who really run the place are very patient."
Actually, it indicates that they aren't as quick to jump to conclusions as you and some of the other posters in this thread. Or maybe they are, and they're just sleeping at the moment ;-)
Yes it is terrible when people jump to conclusions isn't it, oh gloomy one.
Just to be clear, I never assumed that. I didn't think it when I posted it. I wasn't implying that you should be banned because you got banned earlier and made a new account.
I was implying you should be banned because you are rude. You are essentially using newsvine's system to run an article saying that they suck. Some people wouldn't let you do that, but they are.
I hope that clears everything up. Try not to jump to so many conclusions in the future.
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":1207230,"authorDomain":"blai"}
I used to have a little message board on my own website, it was constantly being bombarded with ads and crazy shid. I ended up taking it down. It's gotta be the most thankless task, looking at our spam and ad reporting,
I've reported dozens of such articles, it's almost reflexive now. I've said before, elsewhere, the genius of Newsvine is the collective nature of the beast. We are Newsvine, all of us. Who runs the show? In a very real sense, we all do.
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":1207755,"authorDomain":"Danny-G"}
I feel that Babel is right. We are all prone to make mistakes. We are human but to make the mistakes twice makes us a fool. If the member in question was warned about his actions and continued then by rights action should have been taken. If he wasn't warned and removed then this would be an unfair practice since no one can say they are perfect. I am not sure of the whole story and can't judge it but I do believe in the rule one for all.
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{"commentId":1201577,"authorDomain":"daweb"}
Obviously this loser was shut down by the Conservative Coalition. it is our real purpose and the reason it is a closed group...
{"commentId":1201577,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"daweb"}
- 6 votes
#8 - Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:54 AM EST{"commentId":1201603,"authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}
Huh?
{"commentId":1201603,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":1202008,"authorDomain":"PurelyPolitical"}
DA,
We need to talk. Private like.
;)
{"commentId":1202008,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"PurelyPolitical"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1202055,"authorDomain":"daweb"}
Shhhh, ooops, did I let the secret out.
;-)
{"commentId":1202055,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"daweb"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1201637,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Maybe this guy should be banned. The link to his "article" is now hyperlinked right back to this thread on newvine ! Talk about LOW !!!!
EDIT: At least I drew out the person who did the axing. They are in the process of covering up the truth and manufacturing a story about how I so badly spammed their stupid speck of a snooze site. Check it out here. (This is a URL to this thread we are on Now !)
Hey guys, here's a MASSIVE freakin' hint for you: Spammers don't complain about their accounts getting shut down. They EXPECT it. Spammers don't have high traffic sites and use their real names. There isn't a single spammer on the planet whose site you can pull up by just typing his name in your browser bar. Stop acting so freakin' incredulous and face the fact you've screwed with someone of account and been drawn out in front of tens of thousands as a hack site run by overzealous people who lie to their members.
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- 4 votes
#9 - Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:15 AM EST{"commentId":1201648,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}
Yeah, I especially like the "Hey guys, here's a MASSIVE freakin' hint for you: Spammers don't complain about their accounts getting shut down.". Someone should really tell the spammers that so they can stop the complaining, not even including this guy lol.
{"commentId":1201648,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1201660,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Yep these people are pretty low on the earth. Read the new readers comments, each person that makes a comment they are going after and sublinking to posts they have made.
Nat,
I was starting to think maybe I was schizophrenic and had a dark side lol. You can plainly see how desperately people need to feel like they are part of a gang by reading their responses.
If you click on the Vickie Babbles Gonia link (one of the uppity responders on your thread) you will find this story that she clipped:
My suggestion to All. And I am going to forward this, Stop feeding the bottom fish, this is just giving these trolls more fodder for their sad little blog
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1206655,"authorDomain":"redwolf"}
Spammers don't complain about their accounts getting shut down
Yes. They do.
At least one guy who repeatedly spammed Newsvine from multiple accounts tried pulling the victim card. He'd even managed to garner a little sympathy until he was outed for his abuse of the site.
{"commentId":1206655,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"redwolf"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":1201683,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
Anyone disparaging this community because of the way we treat new members obviously hasn't spent any time around here. Only enough to link to his own work elsewhere on the web.
When you violate the rules of a community, you get kicked out. It's pretty damn simple. You don't like the rules of this community? Don't join.
{"commentId":1201683,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 6 votes
#10 - Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:32 AM EST{"commentId":1201700,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
I agree, but what do you feel about them now hyperlinking right back to this article on the original article as now its changed ? And they hyperlinked also to yours Viki.
I'm not liking the attitude of this one at all.
{"commentId":1201700,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":1201755,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
They also spelled my name wrong.
I don't like the attitude, but to be honest, I'm not concerned with what someone who is clearly a link farmer thinks about Newsvine.
He didn't come here to get smarter, or to participate in the community. He came here to leave links to his own stuff. Look at his site. It's the "Friday Traffic Report." His "departments" include "Blog Marketing," "Link Building," "Social Marketing," "SEO," and "Website Promotion." He was here for one reason and one reason only--to promote himself and his own sites.
And now he's whining because he got caught. Let him tell all his SEO/blog marketing/link building friends that Newsvine sucks. Maybe they'll stop trying to use Newsvine for self-promotion.
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":1201856,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Vickie
Dang you are another of those name changers here on Newsvine ! LOL !
You summed it up well, he is a seed farmer for self promotion and that it, just looking for hits. I think that is why I am putting this threat and this clown on Ignore. I really don't care to help him out anymore.
{"commentId":1201856,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1207763,"authorDomain":"Danny-G"}
Well Put Vickie
A community is like a marriage. People coming togethor to improve themselves with the help of others but it is just that ... a community that one must respect as well.
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{"commentId":1202246,"authorDomain":"jaybutler"}
I don't know what all the fuss is about. It is pretty obvious to me that I am the one who runs the show at Newsvine. Don't you all agree?
{"commentId":1202246,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"jaybutler"}
- 7 votes
#11 - Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:14 PM EST{"commentId":1202609,"authorDomain":"daweb"}
Yup, I will agree as long as you continue to do as I say...
{"commentId":1202609,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"daweb"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":1202631,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
I TOTALLY RUN THE SHOW AT NEWSVINE, PAL.
You did get permission from Viki first right ?
{"commentId":1202631,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":1202644,"authorDomain":"daweb"}
I know I check with her before issuing my orders.
{"commentId":1202644,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"daweb"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":1202835,"authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}
Calvin: The user in question was posting one press release after another, linking back to his site. End of story. The CoH & ToS are quite clear. The guy made a choice...a poor one.
{"commentId":1202835,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}
- 8 votes
#12 - Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:10 PM EST{"commentId":1202889,"authorDomain":"jasonford"}
The guy made a choice...a poor one.
It's too bad he didn't shrivel up like the guy at the end of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. :)
{"commentId":1202889,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"jasonford"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":1203499,"authorDomain":"tang"}
I can understand that some people show up at Newsvine and do not understand how to use the site. I do not understand why they don't heed helpful advice from our members. lauhal, Viki and others have been leaving polite comments to people for many months, helping new users to find their way by respecting our community's rules.
{"commentId":1203499,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"tang"}
- 11 votes
{"commentId":1203596,"authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}
WTF?! Who you callin' polite? ; )
{"commentId":1203596,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":1203607,"authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
Maybe it would be a good idea to send out a automated standard email to new users. about newsvine the rules and regulations plus a help file. The day they sign up.
{"commentId":1203607,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1203678,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
WTF?! Who you callin' polite? ; )
And then he has the nerve to leave me out ?!? geez..... WAF(er)
{"commentId":1203678,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1203709,"authorDomain":"thedagda"}
I dinnaw about ye, but if I were new, I would just feed anny automated e-mail t'me automated e-mail shredder readher and sure it wouldn't sink in at all at all.
{"commentId":1203709,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"thedagda"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1203737,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Are you the one that has spammed me the last three days Dagda ????? I got 43 spam mails that got thru my Zonealarm filters, that Never happens, at most I get one or maybe 2 per week. This is nuts.
{"commentId":1203737,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1204518,"authorDomain":"thedagda"}
No it is not me, Tedd. I have nayther th' time nor th' incline-aytion t' be spammin' annywan.
{"commentId":1204518,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"thedagda"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1205907,"authorDomain":"PurelyPolitical"}
Talk like a Pirate day is long over Dagda. Let it go.
{"commentId":1205907,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"PurelyPolitical"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1208488,"authorDomain":"djproctor"}
In Dundee, Scotland everyone talks like a pirate. Every day. It never ends. ::sniff::
{"commentId":1208488,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"djproctor"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1208758,"authorDomain":"thedagda"}
Arrah, some wee gobsh!tes canna' tell th' diff'rence between a pirate accint an' a good Irish brogue. That's no doubt on account of their lack of experience in th' worruld. T' be sure, ye canna' fault somewan whose worldview is formed intirely by peering out their own BVDs f'r not havin' th' sinse t' tell thim apairt.
{"commentId":1208758,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"thedagda"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1209521,"authorDomain":"PurelyPolitical"}
It's irritating. I am probably not the only one who feels that way. Please stop.
T' be sure, ye canna' fault somewan whose worldview is formed intirely by peering out their own BVDs f'r not havin' th' sinse t' tell thim apairt.
Personal attacks are not necessary.
{"commentId":1209521,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"PurelyPolitical"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1209892,"authorDomain":"jaybutler"}
CoH #5: Although full internationalization is important to Newsvine, please keep all articles and seeds in English until the system can properly sort multiple languages.
Whatever that is, it certainly is not English.
{"commentId":1209892,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"jaybutler"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1210954,"authorDomain":"thedagda"}
'Tis indeed English, 'tis older English than yer American English. 'Tis English as has been spoken this way much langer than ye're counthry was e'en in existence. So keep yer stereotypical opinion t'yerself or I'll give ye a polite Kerry tap with me knuckles an' send ye th' dintal bill f'r rearrangin' yer iv'ries.
{"commentId":1210954,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"thedagda"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1203428,"authorDomain":"adventurebooks"}
Does all this link suspicion mean I have to ditch my article that leads to the 'Archies' and the 'Sugar Sugar' video? Man, I'm SURE gonna miss clicking on that link...
On a more serious note, the person in question was banned because some people at Newsvine really ARE getting smarter. :)
{"commentId":1203428,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"adventurebooks"}
- 5 votes
#13 - Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:20 PM EST{"commentId":1203512,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
I learned alot from that 'Sugar Sugar' video :-)
{"commentId":1203512,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1203653,"authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
After reading Jack Humphrey money making blog, and the spammer's comments I agree we are certainly keeping the crap of the vine. But whats the object of DARTHBOB to get us to see a really obnoxious outrageous complaint about Newsvine.
Me thinks that jack is very annoyed because he got caught... DARTHBOB of course could only be Jack in incognito , its easy to shroud your IP address I am sure Jack (DARTHBOB) knows that. It obvious Darthbob, so obvious.
{"commentId":1203653,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1203676,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Me thinks that jack is very annoyed because he got caught
I think you hit that one right on the old head of the nail.........
{"commentId":1203676,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1204310,"authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
It took me a while Tedd but I always get there in the end. had a bad day to many bloody storms here in cebu.
{"commentId":1204310,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1203718,"authorDomain":"seward"}
I'm still feeling my way around The Vine, having only been a Member for less than three weeks. I'm enjoying my time spent on here. Of course, I don't know all the ins and outs of things yet, and, no doubt, I shall probably make a few mistakes. However, I hope I won't make too many. One rule is very clear, and that is Not to link to your own Blogs or other websites. I can see the reasons behind this rule, and they make perfectly good sense to me.
{"commentId":1203718,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"seward"}
- 8 votes
#14 - Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:33 PM EST{"commentId":1203747,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
I'm enjoying my time spent on here.
That sounds good to me, see we are not such bad people after all.
Heck I had no idea what the COH was when I first got here. Nobody told me about it ! Sounds like your doing fine to me Sandie and welcome to Newsvine ! Nice to have you here.
{"commentId":1203747,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1204318,"authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
sandie welcome to the vine, don't be worried at making mistakes people here are very helpful here. I have made many and once got chucked back into the greenhouse, but it was my own fault by sailing to far into the wind. The rules are good and they are fair and there are very good people here, even my enemies in some subjects become my friends in others.
Keep cool and have fun. Oh if you get addicted don't blame me and anti-histimin does not work.
{"commentId":1204318,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1205725,"authorDomain":"tang"}
Welcome to Newsvine, Sandie!
{"commentId":1205725,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"tang"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":1206695,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
Welcome aboard Sandy, my standard new arrival tips, always give all the seeds and articles a first vote so the tracker can find them; you can get a group reaction on this but lots suggest a comment as well, but best tip is to find Aine MacDermot and her Help Group and see if what ever you might want to do and things you never thought of are there and with help to make sure you do what you try to. Fear not if you have just enough skill to sign on, they can help even those of us who are hopeless! Cross my heart, seeding buttons and all. :~)
{"commentId":1206695,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1204027,"authorDomain":"darthbob"}
I'm breaking my own commitment to stay away from here, primarily to say thank you to Calvin (who I take it is in charge here) for a balanced response. I appreciate the fact that you actually believed it when I said I'm not Jack Humphrey, unlike several other people who have commented.
eg, from Babel Fish: "Me thinks that jack is very annoyed because he got caught... DARTHBOB of course could only be Jack in incognito , its easy to shroud your IP address I am sure Jack (DARTHBOB) knows that. It obvious Darthbob, so obvious."
As I said before, I'm not Jack. I have no affiliation with him other than reading his blog. I suspect that alone is enough to blacklist me for those of you who obviously think SEO, blog promotion, social marketing, etc. are all bad, bad things. Whether you believe it or not is up to you, but if you expect someone new here to believe the things you're saying about Jack (or any other so-called "spammer") you might want to try taking what we say at face value as well.
There are several comments here complaining about Jack's attitude & the tone of his article. At the same time many of you are calling him a clown, spammer, link farmer, etc. Seems to me that the attitude here is no better.
Calvin said "What may seem like a rough reception is actually the same sentiment from our users that makes Newsvine different from other places on the web."
Actually Calvin, it doesn't seem all that different from most other communities I've seen on the internet. People who have invested their time and effort in the community are quick to come to its defense. Understandable and laudable. However, when they jump on someone who is new to the community and proceed to flame him because he dared to question the motives behind a decision they just come across as elitists who aren't interested in hearing from new people unless it fits into their narrow view of things.
As I said before, I had said I wouldn't be back and only posted here to say I appreciate Calvin's balanced response. I figured I might as well address a couple of other points while I was at it. This will be my last post. First impressions are hard to overcome, and my first impression of Newsvine was not very good.
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- 2 votes
#15 - Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:29 AM EST{"commentId":1204340,"authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
Ok jack we believe you, the vine is not for promoting money on other sites. This is a news community.
Jack write some very good article or seeds some good interesting news, then the vine will respect you. NO ADVERTISING. I for one am very annoyed at this article and the outrageous blog, disgusting and completely bad mannered.
Yes I stick up for the rules I have broken and then realised why the rules are fair and needed, If you think they are unfair, then go we don't want you in our community. The babel fish is not powerful or on any sort of power related trip, but opinionated as a member here at Newsvine, I am told I am fair.
I will be watching you to see if you can be worthy as a friend and a member of this very Honorable community of citizen journalist, at present I dont think that you can muster to any honest cause.
Show me the articles and seeds, then your get a better opinion from the Babble Fish.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":1204669,"authorDomain":"JesusaBernardo"}
Agree. Seed and post well and you just might like it here, DarthBob. (Did you really mean "Jack", Babelfish?).
{"commentId":1204669,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"JesusaBernardo"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1205963,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
DarthBob, I do believe you're not the same person as Jack. And it's not so much that we think SEO stuff is a bad, bad thing. We just believe it's bad for Newsvine. There are plenty of other places to do it.
In fact, I think it would be interesting if you enlightened us somewhat as to the purposes of SEO/link farming, etc. Maybe let us know why you don't think it IS bad, and if you believe it to be the case, why it isn't bad for Newsvine (you might be able to change our minds, but it's doubtful;).
At any rate, welcome to Newsvine. I hope the rocky reception didn't sour you too much on what goes on around here.
{"commentId":1205963,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1206447,"authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
Well I am going to give Jack the benefit of the doubt and call him DarthBob from now on, welcome to the Vine DarthBob. Hope after a time that you will realise that the vine is a community and every one in the community is responsible for its news, fun and debates and that the concepts of the vine are not infringed. That the vine has never been a media for spam or self advertising blogs, websites and businesses.
Jack Humphrey's thought otherwise and is now very disappointed as with some others that have commented on his blog. I expect if I comment on his blog he will delete my comment.
Love to see your future seeds and articles.
{"commentId":1206447,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1207778,"authorDomain":"Danny-G"}
Viki Babbles Gonia
I am not sure you know what SEO is. Search Engine Optumization. Newsvine uses it when you look at the link in the address bar, the title bar, the meta tags, and much more just for this article. If one puts the title of an article in those places with the right metatags to match it, then your article is found much quicker on the search engines. SEO is actually a good thing for an author.
Link Farming is a total differnt story. It is used to promote other sites by harvesting links to them. There are companies out there that get paid alot to make sites like this. They have learned all the tools to make a good SEO friendly site so that these links can get recognized quicker.
I hope this helps you.
{"commentId":1207778,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"Danny-G"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1207809,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
DannyG,
FYI...I would say that without a doubt.. Viki is very very well informed what a SEO is. However thanks for your excellent description of the term as it does come up often and I think perhaps some people get it and CEO confused at times.
{"commentId":1207809,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1207868,"authorDomain":"Danny-G"}
My bad .. I was not totally understanding the whole part of the comment when Darth had used the term SEO
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{"commentId":1207902,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
No problem, this thread was a little hard to follow unless you had followed it from the beginning.
{"commentId":1207902,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1208546,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
Thanks, Danny. I do know what SEO is. But I categorically reject any user who attempts to use Newsvine strictly for the purposes of marketing his or her own site.
Newsvine does not allow users to seed articles from their own websites. Newsvine has a purpose, and its purpose is NOT to provide a place for people to post links to their own sites.
{"commentId":1208546,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":1206678,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Amazing the people that post on Jacks Site !
raymonty November 21st, 2007 9:52 am
Jack ~ Good article. Your are a good writer.
Your friend,Old Dog
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- 4 votes
#16 - Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:35 PM EST{"commentId":1206853,"authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
I think that Newsvine.com owners have grounds to sue Jack Humphry's, I had a very good look at his site its full of libel, beyond the norm. It must be effecting his business hopefully he is not making him self ill. Defiantly seems paranoid
{"commentId":1206853,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"silkmesh"}
- 5 votes
#17 - Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:29 AM EST{"commentId":1207346,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
The users probably do also, however Jack and his followers are the bottom feeders of the Internet. They thrive on going into a site like Newsvine, trying to stir up problems, then linking to it and getting more hits on their crummy little web sites. That is their entire life, get more hits. Sex Sells. Read his junk. It reads like a used car sales guide, do whatever you have to to attract people, use sexy pictures, use attention getting titles, Get Sued.....No we don't want to help the little scammer. He had already made his mind up before that article was even posted on Newsvine what the outcome was. It was clear to me in the manner this article was written, it was clear in reading the other articles he has. He is interesting not in news, not in quality, but in quality. He and his kind could not make it on Newsvine or a group that has standards for quality. It is not what he calls "Prima Donna's"
We work hard at Newsvine to do a quality job and it shows. There is nothing wrong with that. Thats the reason I joined Newsvine. I did not join it because it has the highest number of hits or the most articles. I would much rather read one good article then two poor articles. It appears that we at Newsvine just look at what is important a little differently then J. Humphry does !
{"commentId":1207346,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1215887,"authorDomain":"acidreflux"}
As of this morning, the domain no longer resolves. Curious.
{"commentId":1215887,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"acidreflux"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1207271,"authorDomain":"bobneve1"}
Does this mean I have to stop selling my:
Wizeguy Tee Shirts "Dont Make Me Come Over There" $25 ea 2 for $40
Wizeguy: Action figures and bobble head dolls. Collect the whole set $15.
JK...but I will remove the link to my blog from my profile if it offends anyone.
{"commentId":1207271,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"bobneve1"}
- 1 vote
#18 - Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:09 AM EST{"commentId":1207384,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
A link to your blog on your profile is perfectly acceptable.
If you were seeding posts from your blog on Newsvine, that'd be bad. Especially if the posts were selling something.
{"commentId":1207384,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1207412,"authorDomain":"bobneve1"}
Thanks for clearing that up....wanna buy a tee shirt...LOL
{"commentId":1207412,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"bobneve1"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1207434,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
wanna buy a tee shirt.
I do !
1ea Size XL, Send Bill to Calvin @ Newsvine
I TOTALLY RUN THE SHOW AT NEWSVINE, PAL.
{"commentId":1207434,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1207454,"authorDomain":"bobneve1"}
Thats funny...it's as good as in the mail...
{"commentId":1207454,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"bobneve1"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1207874,"authorDomain":"tang"}
Send Bill to Calvin @ Newsvine
Reported as abuse :P
{"commentId":1207874,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"tang"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":1207907,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Reported as abuse :P
How did that guy get out of the GreenHouse ?
{"commentId":1207907,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1210359,"authorDomain":"blai"}
I can see some Newsvine hoodies going over well about this time of year.
{"commentId":1210359,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"blai"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1210452,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
You got the right idea, Blaise.
It's time, boys! It's time for easily available Newsvine gear. T-shirts, hoodies, shot glasses, coasters, etc.
Front: The logo and Newsvine.com
Back: Get Smarter Here
So easy!
{"commentId":1210452,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":1210481,"authorDomain":"blai"}
I've thought of making one myself with an iron-on, but then, I'm not a thief. I do catch Newsvine thieves, though, heh.
{"commentId":1210481,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"blai"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1210496,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Don't forget the long sleeved hoodies..
Right Sleeve---> I TOTALLY RUN THE SHOW AT NEWSVINE, PAL.
Left Sleeve---> I SURVIVED THE GREENHOUSE
{"commentId":1210496,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1210566,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
I already have a home-made (actually, I guess you should say hotel-made) Newsvine t-shirt.
But I'd love one that said I TOTALLY RUN THE SHOW AT NEWSVINE, PAL.
Damn, I'd love that.
{"commentId":1210566,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1210584,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
Oh I think that someone I know will be reminded of that shirt until he get at least one made :-)
Calvin Tang
Send Bill to Calvin @ Newsvine
Reported as abuse :P
{"commentId":1210584,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"TeddRi"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1227852,"authorDomain":"johnson36"}
I was very interested to read your comments on the ethics of Newsvine.
Unfortunately I wish to bring to your attention a very nasty element who have come onto Newsvine in the last few days.
Their aim is not to comment on News stories but to use Newsvine to pursue and vilify another member of Newsvine.
If you go HERE you will see what I mean.
If you also follow my comments on various stories you will also get a better idea of the whole thing.
One member of that group;"navigrrr" has already been banned, but he also has at least two identities:one as "navigrrr" and the other as "Baht At".
Since I began to question both their practices and ethics I too have been attacked in the same way they are attacking Albert Hurwood.
I now leave it to the Newsvine community to judge for yourselves whether the action of this group is in breach of your Code of Honour and your TOS.
{"commentId":1227852,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"johnson36"}
- 5 votes
#19 - Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:39 PM EST{"commentId":1229047,"authorDomain":"foundyouout"}
As Albert runs Nuttygor is this article not self-seeding? http://ahurwood.newsvine.com/_news/2007/11/27/1124943-cyber-harassment- Not for the first time as Hurwood aka Michael Wallace has done this before.
Johnson are you to a Nuttygor member? I think a declaration of interest would be useful.
{"commentId":1229047,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"foundyouout"}
- 1 vote
#20 - Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:17 AM EST{"commentId":1229140,"authorDomain":"johnson36"}
You have just proved my point.
{"commentId":1229140,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"johnson36"}
- 5 votes
#21 - Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:06 AM EST{"commentId":1229438,"authorDomain":"johnson36"}
By the way, I do not believe that an article can be classed "self-seeding."
An article may be classed as "Spam" or "Advertising" but it is not "self-seeding."
But if I am wrong I am sure someone in the Newsvine community will put me right.
But can you tell me where, in the Code of Honour or the Terms of Service it says you are permitted to come on here to "hound" another member as you boast of doing?
Or of using Newsvine to carry out a personal vendetta against another member?
Or to form a group with the express intention of doing that?
{"commentId":1229438,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"johnson36"}
- 5 votes
#22 - Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:12 AM EST{"commentId":1234151,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}
But can you tell me where, in the Code of Honour or the Terms of Service it says you are permitted to come on here to "hound" another member as you boast of doing?
Or of using Newsvine to carry out a personal vendetta against another member?
Or to form a group with the express intention of doing that?
Johnson36, have you contacted the staff about this problem?
{"commentId":1234151,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1235606,"authorDomain":"johnson36"}
Scott, I thought you did that by clicking on the ! box, which I have been doing.
Should I have e-mailed them or what?
{"commentId":1235606,"threadId":"178384","contentId":"1108111","authorDomain":"johnson36"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1235601,"authorDomain":"johnson36"}
"Foundyouout" you still haven't answered my question about "hounding" people off this site.
And you still haven't given an assurance that you will abide by the Code of Honour and the Terms of Service which you accepted when you became a member.
And perhaps you would like to explain this comment which "Navigrrr" has posted on his website: "If he thinks that I'm remotely bothered about being kicked off some american rightwing newswank service ...Apparently Newsvine is "one of" the largest social wanking sites on the net after digg (but so is this site so what?).... they are still people wanking of in excitement at the illusion of doing something through the pathetic web 2.0 concept..."
I think this shows not only that "Baht AT" is really "Navigrrr" but he then admits it: "I joined as baht at in july 2007..."
So as soon as he was, quite rightly, expelled from this site for his insults of other members,
he immediately proceeds to insult it and libels every member on it, using the Internet to spread his hatred ridden bile!
Since he already had an account on here as "baht At" why did he open a new account under the name of "navigrrr".
And why did you join him since you also knew he was operating under a different name?
These question will not go away no matter how much you insult the people asking them.
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- 6 votes
#23 - Sun Dec 2, 2007 6:17 PM EST{"commentId":1241972,"authorDomain":"PurelyPolitical"}
So as soon as he was, quite rightly, expelled from this site for his insults of other members,
he immediately proceeds to insult it and libels every member on it, using the Internet to spread his hatred ridden bile!
Even me?! I don't even know this guy.
I thought everyone liked me but Daniel A. Hallo and chindi.
That hurts.
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- 5 votes
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