Who Runs The Show At Newsvine?

All the fact that I had to create an account to post this says is that I've never used Newsvine before.

No, it says you didn't have an account you were willing to use to hype this story. There could be a number of reasons, including you are the person whose blog is linked to and your account was deleted. . . or someone who has another account they don't want associated with this . . or even that you are new. But the fact that this is a new account is not evidence you have never used Newsvine before.

I have to say, if that's the kind of response a legitimate story gets, I'd be inclined to think that he didn't deserve to be kicked off and was in fact a victim of over-zealous members.

You don't seem to have the best people skills. You might try a nicer tack with people like asking questions or "gee why did this guy get kicked off" ? Trying so post info from your own web site is very clearly spelled out in the COH, any member will tell you that.

Usually kindness wins out far faster then barking. You might want to give it a try......

Lesson in life I hope all learn at some point. There is always 3 sides to every story. He says, she says, and the truth. The truth is not always easy to see but somewhere in between both the other stories. It is much wiser to seek the truth first before we can say anything.

the fact that I had to create an account to post this says is that I've never used Newsvine before.

I believe you Darth, but the fact that you chose to join us from the 'dark side' Bob makes this old Viner very wary.

"But beware. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny" ~ yoda

It's comments like these that turn me away from using sites like this. If my links are going to be suspect right from the start, why would I put my time and effort into posting them in the first place?

The fact that they haven't banned your account yet, indicates that the people who really run the place are very patient.

If my links are going to be suspect right from the start, why would I put my time and effort into posting them in the first place?

All links are suspect, as they should be. Skepticism of what we read on the Internet is a good thing. In this case, though, we have a fair bit of experience dealing with link spammers, and the character of the post that you seeded raises a number of red flags that make us extra skeptical.

It's comments like these that turn me away from using sites like this.

Apparently not.

*waves* write when you find work!

I an many others have broke the rules, but when told not to do it any more I had no problems. When you use any Internet communities there are rules and if you break them once they kick you off. Here on the vine you are told where you went wrong then told how to amend the problem, well before your chuck off for not cleaning up your act.

People sometimes break the rule by seeding from their blog or website, do it once and members over look it and tell you what you have done wrong. Keep on doing it and then you end up attracting concern from the administrators.

It fair and square on the vine, but there are rules concerning decency and hundreds of active users here learn to respect them.

It would seem your friend Jack Humphrey had not shown respect to the community, I am sure he would of been told to copy and paste his articles then to publish them directly on the vine as an article. Very simple thing to do, however he disrespected the rules and seeded his blog.

Nice to see you stick up for him, but I do not think its a worthy task.

The vine is policed by all vine users and the judgement and punishment is given fairly by the administration. After fair warning some times many warnings. Jack Humphrey's should learn to respect rules that are very easy to keep.

Nice to see you stick up for him, but I do not think its a worthy task.

I agree 100%. Follow any of the links that Humphrey has written and he seems to have very little respect for others in the manner that he writes. I would not waste any effort on this person at all. The only thing he is interested in is gathering hits on his blogs and in this case using Newsvine to help out by seeding false claims.

"The fact that they haven't banned your account yet, indicates that the people who really run the place are very patient."

Actually, it indicates that they aren't as quick to jump to conclusions as you and some of the other posters in this thread. Or maybe they are, and they're just sleeping at the moment ;-)

Yes it is terrible when people jump to conclusions isn't it, oh gloomy one.

Just to be clear, I never assumed that. I didn't think it when I posted it. I wasn't implying that you should be banned because you got banned earlier and made a new account.

I was implying you should be banned because you are rude. You are essentially using newsvine's system to run an article saying that they suck. Some people wouldn't let you do that, but they are.

I hope that clears everything up. Try not to jump to so many conclusions in the future.

I used to have a little message board on my own website, it was constantly being bombarded with ads and crazy shid. I ended up taking it down. It's gotta be the most thankless task, looking at our spam and ad reporting,

I've reported dozens of such articles, it's almost reflexive now. I've said before, elsewhere, the genius of Newsvine is the collective nature of the beast. We are Newsvine, all of us. Who runs the show? In a very real sense, we all do.

I feel that Babel is right. We are all prone to make mistakes. We are human but to make the mistakes twice makes us a fool. If the member in question was warned about his actions and continued then by rights action should have been taken. If he wasn't warned and removed then this would be an unfair practice since no one can say they are perfect. I am not sure of the whole story and can't judge it but I do believe in the rule one for all.

Ok jack we believe you, the vine is not for promoting money on other sites. This is a news community.

Jack write some very good article or seeds some good interesting news, then the vine will respect you. NO ADVERTISING. I for one am very annoyed at this article and the outrageous blog, disgusting and completely bad mannered.

Yes I stick up for the rules I have broken and then realised why the rules are fair and needed, If you think they are unfair, then go we don't want you in our community. The babel fish is not powerful or on any sort of power related trip, but opinionated as a member here at Newsvine, I am told I am fair.

I will be watching you to see if you can be worthy as a friend and a member of this very Honorable community of citizen journalist, at present I dont think that you can muster to any honest cause.

Show me the articles and seeds, then your get a better opinion from the Babble Fish.

Agree. Seed and post well and you just might like it here, DarthBob. (Did you really mean "Jack", Babelfish?).

Well I am going to give Jack the benefit of the doubt and call him DarthBob from now on, welcome to the Vine DarthBob. Hope after a time that you will realise that the vine is a community and every one in the community is responsible for its news, fun and debates and that the concepts of the vine are not infringed. That the vine has never been a media for spam or self advertising blogs, websites and businesses.

Jack Humphrey's thought otherwise and is now very disappointed as with some others that have commented on his blog. I expect if I comment on his blog he will delete my comment.

Love to see your future seeds and articles.

Viki Babbles Gonia

I am not sure you know what SEO is. Search Engine Optumization. Newsvine uses it when you look at the link in the address bar, the title bar, the meta tags, and much more just for this article. If one puts the title of an article in those places with the right metatags to match it, then your article is found much quicker on the search engines. SEO is actually a good thing for an author.

Link Farming is a total differnt story. It is used to promote other sites by harvesting links to them. There are companies out there that get paid alot to make sites like this. They have learned all the tools to make a good SEO friendly site so that these links can get recognized quicker.

I hope this helps you.

DannyG,
FYI...I would say that without a doubt.. Viki is very very well informed what a SEO is. However thanks for your excellent description of the term as it does come up often and I think perhaps some people get it and CEO confused at times.

My bad .. I was not totally understanding the whole part of the comment when Darth had used the term SEO

No problem, this thread was a little hard to follow unless you had followed it from the beginning.